Post by High Priestess on Oct 11, 2015 6:50:24 GMT
Paul, I have noticed you have brought this up before....I have included a response at the end of this other thread, which is a news article that I think puts things somewhat into perspective....(, perhaps quite alarmingly into perspective....)
I understand the concern some people have about Airbnb used to turn long term rentals to vacation style short term rentals. Yet, I also show support for those who do short term rentals in homes they don't live in.
My main problem is those that rent out a place they don't live in to house 6 people to a room is disrespectful to those that live in the neighborhood. Let's ignore the fact that 99.9% of these hostels are illegal. Please ignore that fact.
A hostel in a neighborhood cannot be managed properly and is the stuff that makes things harder for majority of host on Airbnb. If one thing goes wrong at a hostel neighbors will be extremely vehemently opposed to Airbnb on the political level. It is making things hard for decent Airbnb host.
Deanna I could swear you already posted this?
Rosanne I agree, I think so too.
helga Twice ;-)
Natalie I agree that this is causing and is going to continue to cause a lot of problems, especially in big cities of the U.S. where it is getting harder and harder for normal people to rent apartments and people are taking long term rentals off the market for this type of stuff. I think we have not heard the end of this discussion.
Danny Municipal Standards department will deal with over crowding problems. Landlords housing six people to a room will probably receive a Cease and Desist letter or some form of legal action.
Rosanne As the population grows and more people need housing, more of these places are going to develop. I just saw something on TV where a young lady was looking for housing in San Francisco after being transferred with her job there from NYC. She found something called "Community Housing" - I guess they had turned an old hotel into rental rooms, each with a lock on door, shared bathrooms, and community kitchen & livingroom. For this they wanted $ 2,000 a month per roomer. I'm from CA and I know housing is crazy there - but, really that much & you have to share a bathroom? But, people are getting the price because people need to live somewhere.
Hostels Belong In Commercial Areas Not Neighborhoods
I stayed at a place that ended up being a hostel with 12 people in an apartment in San Francisco. Whether I enjoyed the host and my stay is besides the issue. These hostels are impossible to maintain without risk of upsetting neighbors one day and hostels in neighborhoods is what is making Airbnb look bad. It's because of hostel properties why regular homesharers, short term renters, etc are suffering from these political pressure on Airbnb
Jeannette Absolutely Paul, they violate basic housing codes which are intended to avoid subpar accommodation.
Raymond & Elaine Someone should bring this up at the Airbnb open in Paris. Airbnb should be worried about their reputation as much as we are. I'd like to know if they review listings and delete many inappropriate ones.
Deanna It's pretty obvious to me that they have an extremely low bar for hosting, as in "is there a bank account". Yes. You are now approved as an Airbnb host. We have all seen so many listings, just on this forum, that we scratch our heads and wonder if it is a joke listing, no?
Paul I don't expect Airbnb to be law enforcers and the law is so complicated that we are probably breaking some blue laws as well. Probably none of us commenting on my post including myself have a realtor's license. Yet, there is only so far how you can go. Hostels in neighborhoods? Common. This is why cities across the world are attacking innocent Airbnb host like the majority of us on this thread. There is no possible way that someone can run a hostel they dont live in without possibilities something can go seriously wrong.
Jeannette We don't need realtor's licenses, they really pertain in no way I can see to this discussion. I and others though are familiar with housing codes .... how many people (unrelated) can stay in one dwelling (now 4 in my city, probably going down to 2) ... how many sq ft per person ...
Raymond & Elaine Although this forum is anglophone alot of us are not actually situated in the USA so each country , state or town has it's own rules. We all need to familiarise ourselves with local restrictions as any serious host does already. I just wish airbnb were as serious about the quality of some of their their hosts., as Deanna states.
Will Airbnb be replaced like Facebook is being replaced by other social networks?
The majority of people on these forums are those that like Airbnb for the experience and are not commercial renters. Commercial renters tend to make Airbnb look bad, don't represent what Airbnb originally stood for, and are getting unfair support from Airbnb as a company against homesharers like ourselves. Prop-f might not have happened so fast had we have so many commercial renters brining a crash pad into someone else's neighborhood or companies like Pillow not being careful on keeping a low profile.
Facebook I enjoyed it from (phone number hidden) when it was made for college students. Once they made themselves open to anyone, made themselves advertiser friendly, and later advertiser before users I lost interest in Facebook. I hope Airbnb will focus more on homesharers or a new competitor can come out just for homesharing. Not commercial properties.