Post by deborah on Sept 20, 2015 16:25:01 GMT
Another warning
Very scary. It gets really bad on page 2 of the article...http://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2015/sep/09/feature-when-your-airbnb-guest-wont-leave/
www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2015/sep/09/feature-when-your-airbnb-guest-wont-leave/#

Be careful out there!
Deborah (High Priestess)
I think every single case of an Airbnb guest squatting that I have heard of, has taken place in California. One in Palm Springs, one in San Francisco (dear Ernest!), one in Watsonville, two in Los Angeles, and now this one in San Diego. What are we here, the land of scammers and squatters!!
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Terrible!
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This is scary
Ernest (josh)
I am so sorry this happened to her. Our laws seem to protect the wrong people too often. I'd like to see them changed legislatively. On the other hand, the host made at least one avoidable mistake. Third party bookings are violative of Airbnb policy and I would caution all hosts to strictly adhere to this policy. That said, she has my deepest sympathy and empathy as I can only regret to say that I have experienced, first-hand, a similar experience. The part that was most troubling was how we had treated our "guest" with such generosity and friendship that when she took such vindictive advantage of us it made us not only feel incredibly violated, victimized and saddened, but we were given the impression that she seemed to have no remorse and in hindsight it seems as though we were targeted by the woman and intentionally abused. Fortunately, this has not dampened the spirit by which we have treated and been able to relate to our subsequent guests. I hope that this host can learn from her experience and move on relatively unaffected.
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Well said
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I haven't read all of these stories that come out, but it seems to me that many have a common denominator of people who are using Airbnb space as a somewhat open-ended residence, rather than for a more clearly defined period, like a vacation, a home renovation, temporary work assignment. It's astounding to me how these squatters seem so callous of the disturbance they are causing in others' lives and homes.
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I think the warning is in going outside of Airbnb for payment and renting to 3rd parties - both prohibited by Airbnb
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I've heard too many of these stories now (and am in California) - just now went on my listing and changed the maximum stay to 28 days. And technically they are not "squatters" - they are tenants after 30 days. There are no laws in California to protect "squatters" (defined as people who enter your home/property illegally and set up camp.
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I would have consulted an attorney on whether these two were "lodgers" not "tenants," under California law. In a number of states, you can throw lodgers (people in a single room, in an owner-occupied home) out on their ear without going to court.
Very scary. It gets really bad on page 2 of the article...http://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2015/sep/09/feature-when-your-airbnb-guest-wont-leave/
www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2015/sep/09/feature-when-your-airbnb-guest-wont-leave/#

Be careful out there!
Deborah (High Priestess)
I think every single case of an Airbnb guest squatting that I have heard of, has taken place in California. One in Palm Springs, one in San Francisco (dear Ernest!), one in Watsonville, two in Los Angeles, and now this one in San Diego. What are we here, the land of scammers and squatters!!

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Terrible!
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This is scary
Ernest (josh)
I am so sorry this happened to her. Our laws seem to protect the wrong people too often. I'd like to see them changed legislatively. On the other hand, the host made at least one avoidable mistake. Third party bookings are violative of Airbnb policy and I would caution all hosts to strictly adhere to this policy. That said, she has my deepest sympathy and empathy as I can only regret to say that I have experienced, first-hand, a similar experience. The part that was most troubling was how we had treated our "guest" with such generosity and friendship that when she took such vindictive advantage of us it made us not only feel incredibly violated, victimized and saddened, but we were given the impression that she seemed to have no remorse and in hindsight it seems as though we were targeted by the woman and intentionally abused. Fortunately, this has not dampened the spirit by which we have treated and been able to relate to our subsequent guests. I hope that this host can learn from her experience and move on relatively unaffected.
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Well said
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I haven't read all of these stories that come out, but it seems to me that many have a common denominator of people who are using Airbnb space as a somewhat open-ended residence, rather than for a more clearly defined period, like a vacation, a home renovation, temporary work assignment. It's astounding to me how these squatters seem so callous of the disturbance they are causing in others' lives and homes.
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I think the warning is in going outside of Airbnb for payment and renting to 3rd parties - both prohibited by Airbnb
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I've heard too many of these stories now (and am in California) - just now went on my listing and changed the maximum stay to 28 days. And technically they are not "squatters" - they are tenants after 30 days. There are no laws in California to protect "squatters" (defined as people who enter your home/property illegally and set up camp.
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I would have consulted an attorney on whether these two were "lodgers" not "tenants," under California law. In a number of states, you can throw lodgers (people in a single room, in an owner-occupied home) out on their ear without going to court.