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Post by High Priestess on Jul 17, 2016 3:11:36 GMT
See the article: hbr.org/2016/07/airbnb-is-facing-an-existential-expansion-problemThe Airbnb commercial goes like this: “Don’t go to Paris, don’t tour Paris, and please don’t do Paris.” But then the punchline: “Live in Paris….” But how many travelers can “live there” before Airbnb accepts that it has become a vehicle for mass tourism, and that its users are tourists? What is the endgame for cities where Airbnb continues to expand? Some cities say they don’t want to be “the next Venice,” turning into a theme park for tourists, with locals pushed out. It’s not an unreasonable concern. Reykjavik is a small city, with a population of only 120,000 people and a flood of tourists. The city’s only apartment rental website listed just nine apartments for rent in downtown Reykjavik. There were 22 in the entire city….In Reykjavik there are roughly 50,000 apartments; 2,551 of them, or 5 percent, are Airbnb units.” Even smaller communities are experiencing problems of scale when it comes to Airbnb. Joshua Tree is a small town of 7,000 people on the edge of the Joshua Tree National Park in California. It has over 200 available Airbnb rentals. Resident Christine Pfranger observes that “locals are having difficulty finding homes to rent, and are being pushed out of their homes to make way for more vacation rentals.” Another resident adds, “Airbnb and vacation rentals are changing our community….House prices are going up because people now buy houses to rent out as vacation rentals, making it close to impossible for people working in the area to buy a house.”
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Post by Inanna (Shaun) on Jul 17, 2016 5:08:29 GMT
This is an actual problem. How dense are Airbnb's going to be allowed to be? We have discussed the quality of guest being a bit different. As it truly goes mainstream, will the centers of cities become holiday package tours? I'm not trying to engage in hyperbole. This article just painting a picture that looks pretty bleak. What do you all think?
Maybe Airbnb's campaign to recruit so many more hosts so quickly was too fast?
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Post by High Priestess on Jul 17, 2016 15:05:22 GMT
I think it's been a problem for some time now that there are too many hosts and too many listings in many cities. Though I view that as a problem mainly for hosts themselves -- having too much competition. I would think that this problem would naturally diminish as new hosts start trying to do business, and then find, that they can't get enough business, so they quit. I do think Airbnb should be less aggressive and pushy in trying to recruit new hosts --- I can't do a review for a guest without getting a popup box offering me cash for signing up a friend as a host.
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Post by Inanna (Shaun) on Jul 18, 2016 4:31:54 GMT
Yes, Deborah, I get that box too, offering me 100 bucks to recruit a host. Well, due to the vastly enlarged competition in my neighborhood, I lose that every few days compared to last year as my prices had to drop so much to compete so not really a good deal to recruit more hosts for them.
We're considering doing Airbnb in Nicaragua, where we will be living from November. I tried to find a good Airbnb in Leon and there wasn't a whole lot of choices.
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Post by High Priestess on Jul 18, 2016 4:46:12 GMT
Shaun, I will be very interested to hear how it goes doing Airbnb-ing in Nicaragua! Do you expect you would mostly cater to tourists?
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Post by CC on Jul 18, 2016 5:46:54 GMT
In Aleppo, Syria, there are zero Airbnbs.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2016 8:57:40 GMT
Just to be nosey, this past April I was looking to see if my listing pops up on the FlipKey/Trip Advisor search for Kailua-Kona, Hawaii. 2010 Census reports the population to be 12,000. There are 854 vacation rentals. My listing did not, nor a g/f's whose is just up the hill 5 minutes away; it was only listings within the village. I'm like 'holy smokes', no wonder we're all so slow. Hotels average 3 stars according to Google, average price of $166. Listings which were even less than 1/2 price of the 'average' hotels had less reservations than mine, so I never decreased my prices, but an interesting find to ponder, as I am wondering how many people would know to search Captain Cook as an area. The good news is, most of the hotels are rated as crap with only 2 or 3 stars until you hit the $1000 per night range.
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Post by Inanna (Shaun) on Jul 20, 2016 2:27:43 GMT
Well, you know, I really don't know exactly, Deborah. Certainly tourists- Nicaragua is on the Central American trail backpackers are taking, so there are loads of hostels. It's also a place where people from the US are looking at retiring. Leon is a bit of a younger crowd, not as renovated, not as expensive, university town. But not much real competition for a nice Airbnb. Granada, is a bit more "gentrified" with many more expats, more retirees, slightly more expensive. But it seems so many of these expats and retirees bought colonials for peanuts and renovated and rent them out. While I'm pretty sure the expat population will swell in Granada as boomers retire, it might be better to open in Leon and catch the overflow. Starting in an undeveloped market. Plus, Leon is closer to the beach. it will be interesting for sure! I will keep you posted here. My last guests come to Chicago this weekend, and once the move is done, vacation myself after helping all the other people have one!
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Post by Inanna (Shaun) on Jul 20, 2016 2:31:05 GMT
Rhonda, I keep reading that travel is down this year. I can't tell if it is travel is down or host numbers are up! Maybe both.
You live in a place called Captain Cook?
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Post by High Priestess on Jul 20, 2016 3:14:56 GMT
I'm looking forward to a vacation too, pretty soon. Not from hosting but from my "day job". I am helping remodel/redesign an apartment right now and it's going to be done in about a week or 10 days. After that, I get a bit of a break before starting my next remodel/redesign project. It's quite likely though that much of the time off will end up being used to take care of the huge pile of chores and needed work at my own house, that has gotten put off while I've helped others with their homes.
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