Post by High Priestess on Feb 24, 2016 5:23:43 GMT
Jason shared FEb 22 2016 on Anecdotes
www.airbnb.com/groups/content/content-209764
Contracts
Hello,
New to Airbnb and we have a rental contact that we used with the past renters prior to joining this site. Is this something that I can add to prospective renters after initial contact? How could/should this be done? Is this something normally done?
We were instructed to do this by a lawyer as a means of understanding from both parties and a way of protection as well.
Thank you
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helga
helgaa day ago
You have to disclose that you will establish a rental contract and it's terms before the booking is completed. You can either note it in the listing description or notify the guest when he makes a request. If it's not in the listing, you can't do Instant Book, but if you are careful enough to use a contract, IB is not for you anyway.
I solve the problem of the terms by having most in the description and house rules and telling them that the contract does not contain any more restrictions. It contains all useful information in one document, like codes and address, detailed description and some important information how things work. - That des not scare them off; I tell them before that I will need all their names and the address of the renter. If you do not say that before, you can't oblige them afterwards. It's very annoying that airbnb accepts accounts without addresses.
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Rhonda
Rhondaa day ago
Giggles at Helga, the only ones I want to know my physical address are delivery men and paying guests who might want to find their accommodations.
helga
helgaa day ago
Rhonda, I never sent a post card to a guest and no package bomb either. (got a postcard from China last week) But the only guests refusing to give an address are those who leave either some mess or big damage. I use that as a filter questions for the full home rentals ;-)
Rhonda
Rhondaa day ago
Helga, many times I enjoy a good giggle with my instant bookings. No room at the Inn; flight delayed, whatevers. I share that so many hosts require such information that #1 they wouldn't have been accepted; or #2; people are booking a room, not applying for a J-O-B. I go for volume, and the 'trust factor' ended long ago with my Home Exchange experiences where we were 'only two ships passing in the night'; we rarely met and totally trusted one another to each other's homes, automobiles, everything. Airbnb on premises is the simplest gig in town (almost), off site, I have to leave to 'management' on the mainland.
helga
helgaa day ago
Rhonda, I don't request verified ID. But I have a legal obligation to sign a contract for the whole apartment. Otherwise it's automatically a tenant, not a seasonal guest. And in a contract, you need an address. It's like your tax collection. If you are in the same house, you have some control, but if you rent from afar, you have to protect yourself. In France it's very hard to get a squatter out if he stayed in more then 48 hours.
Rhonda
Rhondaa day ago
I'm not a nosey Nellie. It's interesting the basic locations people travel from. Yesterday I wrote a note to a guest from Massachusetts that I would be leaving, and he now had to share the bath with other IB from same state. Good conversations were shared, as I do often state names and countries of origin to the guests who've arrived or are expecting to, or not home. Typically, if someone asks me where I live, my response is 'In a House', if it's a local, it's 'down there' while I am typically pointing south. Even if making a hotel reservation or purchases online, they ask your mailing address for your credit card address. We rely on post office boxes here, and that is totally dependent on which one is most convenient. My PO Box is not in the area that I live. Calling my other favorite hermit....CC
Rhonda
Rhondaa day ago
Thus my famous repetitive statement "Every guest, every host, every listing, totally Unique".
helga
helgaa day ago
This forum closes in two days; Find much of our collected wisdom and fun on another forum, created by Deborah, who moderated the New Host Forum.
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helga
helgaa day ago
globalhosting.freeforums.net
Rhonda
Rhondaa day ago
I keep getting feedback requests regarding the Community Forums...You know me, I told it like it is and advised against closing the Groups. My current guest was two cents short on his tax, I said I had two cents to give; now I guess I've given 4.
Jason
Jasona day ago
Thank you for your input. I believe I will scroll through other listings and view the details of house rules. I'm only try to protect both myself and renters so we both have an user standing of what is expected.
Take care and happy renting.
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Shannon
Shannona day ago
Well CHELLO JASON, MY what a nice _________ you have there. Are you married? I checked out your listing and the home is to die for, okay, not die, but definitely worth visiting Canada again. The price is very affordable for such a large home with a dock. I can see why you would NEED a contract. You have much to lose. Are you a sole proprietor, or LLC does Canada have the same corporate laws as USA? Do you have a waiver in case someone drowns in the water? Just asking.
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Jason
Jason8 hours ago
Hello and thank you. We have this contract for such liabilities as water use at your own risk and no diving off the dock. For such a case.
Take care and happy renting
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Shannon
Shannon6 hours ago
well alrighty then Mr congeniality, happy rentng to you too!
www.airbnb.com/groups/content/content-209764
Contracts
Hello,
New to Airbnb and we have a rental contact that we used with the past renters prior to joining this site. Is this something that I can add to prospective renters after initial contact? How could/should this be done? Is this something normally done?
We were instructed to do this by a lawyer as a means of understanding from both parties and a way of protection as well.
Thank you
5 comments
Follow
Like
helga
helgaa day ago
You have to disclose that you will establish a rental contract and it's terms before the booking is completed. You can either note it in the listing description or notify the guest when he makes a request. If it's not in the listing, you can't do Instant Book, but if you are careful enough to use a contract, IB is not for you anyway.
I solve the problem of the terms by having most in the description and house rules and telling them that the contract does not contain any more restrictions. It contains all useful information in one document, like codes and address, detailed description and some important information how things work. - That des not scare them off; I tell them before that I will need all their names and the address of the renter. If you do not say that before, you can't oblige them afterwards. It's very annoying that airbnb accepts accounts without addresses.
Reply Like 6 replies•1 like
Rhonda
Rhondaa day ago
Giggles at Helga, the only ones I want to know my physical address are delivery men and paying guests who might want to find their accommodations.
helga
helgaa day ago
Rhonda, I never sent a post card to a guest and no package bomb either. (got a postcard from China last week) But the only guests refusing to give an address are those who leave either some mess or big damage. I use that as a filter questions for the full home rentals ;-)
Rhonda
Rhondaa day ago
Helga, many times I enjoy a good giggle with my instant bookings. No room at the Inn; flight delayed, whatevers. I share that so many hosts require such information that #1 they wouldn't have been accepted; or #2; people are booking a room, not applying for a J-O-B. I go for volume, and the 'trust factor' ended long ago with my Home Exchange experiences where we were 'only two ships passing in the night'; we rarely met and totally trusted one another to each other's homes, automobiles, everything. Airbnb on premises is the simplest gig in town (almost), off site, I have to leave to 'management' on the mainland.
helga
helgaa day ago
Rhonda, I don't request verified ID. But I have a legal obligation to sign a contract for the whole apartment. Otherwise it's automatically a tenant, not a seasonal guest. And in a contract, you need an address. It's like your tax collection. If you are in the same house, you have some control, but if you rent from afar, you have to protect yourself. In France it's very hard to get a squatter out if he stayed in more then 48 hours.
Rhonda
Rhondaa day ago
I'm not a nosey Nellie. It's interesting the basic locations people travel from. Yesterday I wrote a note to a guest from Massachusetts that I would be leaving, and he now had to share the bath with other IB from same state. Good conversations were shared, as I do often state names and countries of origin to the guests who've arrived or are expecting to, or not home. Typically, if someone asks me where I live, my response is 'In a House', if it's a local, it's 'down there' while I am typically pointing south. Even if making a hotel reservation or purchases online, they ask your mailing address for your credit card address. We rely on post office boxes here, and that is totally dependent on which one is most convenient. My PO Box is not in the area that I live. Calling my other favorite hermit....CC
Rhonda
Rhondaa day ago
Thus my famous repetitive statement "Every guest, every host, every listing, totally Unique".
helga
helgaa day ago
This forum closes in two days; Find much of our collected wisdom and fun on another forum, created by Deborah, who moderated the New Host Forum.
Reply Like 2 replies
helga
helgaa day ago
globalhosting.freeforums.net
Rhonda
Rhondaa day ago
I keep getting feedback requests regarding the Community Forums...You know me, I told it like it is and advised against closing the Groups. My current guest was two cents short on his tax, I said I had two cents to give; now I guess I've given 4.
Jason
Jasona day ago
Thank you for your input. I believe I will scroll through other listings and view the details of house rules. I'm only try to protect both myself and renters so we both have an user standing of what is expected.
Take care and happy renting.
Reply Like
Shannon
Shannona day ago
Well CHELLO JASON, MY what a nice _________ you have there. Are you married? I checked out your listing and the home is to die for, okay, not die, but definitely worth visiting Canada again. The price is very affordable for such a large home with a dock. I can see why you would NEED a contract. You have much to lose. Are you a sole proprietor, or LLC does Canada have the same corporate laws as USA? Do you have a waiver in case someone drowns in the water? Just asking.
Reply Like
Jason
Jason8 hours ago
Hello and thank you. We have this contract for such liabilities as water use at your own risk and no diving off the dock. For such a case.
Take care and happy renting
Reply Like 1 reply
Shannon
Shannon6 hours ago
well alrighty then Mr congeniality, happy rentng to you too!