Post by High Priestess on Oct 1, 2015 1:36:53 GMT
Tina shared in SEpt 2015 on ANecdotes
www.airbnb.com/groups/content/content-176451
Could not break through security
Tina
I am new to Airbnb. My ex hired a private investigator to try to set up a false identify saying that I was put to putting my children and I in danger; becuse just anyone could come into my home. He thought this would be his way of getting full custody of the children. In court the Private Investagator set up four false identies. They could not break through the security measures set forth by Airbnb. They then had to hire a real person to enter my home to show just cause. That failed also.
So this whole experience has made me feel very confident in the security measures that Airbnb has set forth on helping to establish connecting good guest and host together for awesome experience on both ends.
By sharing this I hope this this makes others feel a bit more at ease when taking on guest.
Deanna:
Wow! Thank you Tina for sharing what must have been a tough ordeal for you.
Caroline:
As Deanna says, also a reason to not use Instant Book imho.
Rosanne:
I feel the same way about Instant Book.
Deanna:
I use instant book, but with the requirement of verification.
Rosanne:
Verification only means they have checked their email address and phone number. I want to ask my own questions and establish a rapport and mutual understanding. I think you can only get that by emailing a few times first. I see no advantage to IB. Most people are browsing listings anyway. When I am traveling as a guest - I dont want to use it myself. I want to know who I'm sleeping with (so to speak)....lol....
Clare:
What kind of questions do you ask?
Christina:
I won't use IB for the same reason. I also reiterate the amenities and location because many guests don't read them and i don't want any surprises and bad reviews because it is not what they expected.
carmel:
Öö
That was a mistake. !
Rosanne:
I ask about their reason for visiting the area. I ask how long they have lived at their permanent residence. I try to incorporate questions in with things like weather and tourist attractions. Eventually you get a feel for people.
Tina:
I have it set on IB with verification.
The PI whom knows how to set up fake identities could not get through.
I had been hosting at 8 weeks when they hired another PI to use their real identity. Even at hosting for 8 weeks I knew immediately that this person did not feel right. I asked questions then tried to verify it on my own that something did not seem right. I knew immediately that this young woman was probably hired to show just cause but I also knew that their was nothing she could say against me either. I wrote on her review that I knew that we would see each other soon. These types of cases can be nasty in court. As I single parent it has made me feel more comfortable hosting knowing that Airbnb my first line of defense is making sure everyone is safe. My second defense is me looking at reviews and following instinct. It's amazing how you know when something just does not feel quite right. I feel more confident now in using instant book with verification. Then when it is accepted I look into the reviews automatically. I always ask questions. Just like this young woman was the only person that I have ever looked into because your instinct kicks in.
I hope that posting this will make others feel a bit more confident in the entire booking process that (first line of defense) Airbnb has tried with their process in establishing that only good people are connecting with those that are also good natured. I have thoroughly enjoyed hosting more than I even thought possible. Rosanne's comment is so correct. "Eventually you get a feel for people"
Christina:
The verification is only that it is a resl person. Airbnb does not do background checks or verify the person in any way. As a host, there has to be a high level of trust but instinct is the best tool. I like to ask questions to make sure the guests will be a good fit.
Rosanne:
I agree. But, some people are clever and you can be 100% with anyone. Safety first. One of my guests said they stayed at an Airbnb that asked them for their Driver's License #. She said she had a lot of expensive objects she had accumulated over her travels. I would have no problem giving a Host my DL#, but some people might not like it?
Nancy:
I definitely would not give someone my DL# but would be happy to show mine so they could verify I'm who I say I am. If it turns out I broke or stole something they can and should resolve it through the Airbnb resolution process.
Natalie:
I'm surprised but happy to hear this. I would have thought it would be easy to get verified on Airbnb.
Rosanne:
Nancy: Some of my guests say that Hosts have copiers and make a copy of their DL. I dont see where it would be a problem if you gave it to them. As a host - I have thought about just copying down their car tags - but, most of my guests have rental cars so it wouldnt do much good.
Rose:
I use instant book with verification without problems. Most people still tell me about themselves before they actually book anyhow, and we do chat back & forth.
But honestly people if someone wanted in, and were bad guys it's very easy to get in. How can you know someone has good intentions by the answers they type in a message to you? If you think you're more safe by asking some questions then you may be fooling yourself. I know Airbnb asks for a driver's license & Facebook info, etc, but this is to match up the names. They don't do a background check on drivers licenses. If I asked someone how long they were at their current residence how would I know what they said was true? I trust the reviews more than anything.
Christina:
As i said it's not about safety but about a good fit. Too many people book on price alone and don't read anything.
Rosanne:
As a guest - I first look for location, then price. Everything else is doable. When sharing a space, I want my own bathroom. It could be a deal breaker. I will pay a bit more for one. Then I read reviews. Alot depends on the location and what I will do while Im there. If its beach, I want to be close. If I dont have a car, I want good transportation to get around. Each person has a list of wants & needs. As far as security - there will always be a bit of a risk.
www.airbnb.com/groups/content/content-176451
Could not break through security
Tina
I am new to Airbnb. My ex hired a private investigator to try to set up a false identify saying that I was put to putting my children and I in danger; becuse just anyone could come into my home. He thought this would be his way of getting full custody of the children. In court the Private Investagator set up four false identies. They could not break through the security measures set forth by Airbnb. They then had to hire a real person to enter my home to show just cause. That failed also.
So this whole experience has made me feel very confident in the security measures that Airbnb has set forth on helping to establish connecting good guest and host together for awesome experience on both ends.
By sharing this I hope this this makes others feel a bit more at ease when taking on guest.
Deanna:
Wow! Thank you Tina for sharing what must have been a tough ordeal for you.
Caroline:
As Deanna says, also a reason to not use Instant Book imho.
Rosanne:
I feel the same way about Instant Book.
Deanna:
I use instant book, but with the requirement of verification.
Rosanne:
Verification only means they have checked their email address and phone number. I want to ask my own questions and establish a rapport and mutual understanding. I think you can only get that by emailing a few times first. I see no advantage to IB. Most people are browsing listings anyway. When I am traveling as a guest - I dont want to use it myself. I want to know who I'm sleeping with (so to speak)....lol....
Clare:
What kind of questions do you ask?
Christina:
I won't use IB for the same reason. I also reiterate the amenities and location because many guests don't read them and i don't want any surprises and bad reviews because it is not what they expected.
carmel:
Öö
That was a mistake. !
Rosanne:
I ask about their reason for visiting the area. I ask how long they have lived at their permanent residence. I try to incorporate questions in with things like weather and tourist attractions. Eventually you get a feel for people.
Tina:
I have it set on IB with verification.
The PI whom knows how to set up fake identities could not get through.
I had been hosting at 8 weeks when they hired another PI to use their real identity. Even at hosting for 8 weeks I knew immediately that this person did not feel right. I asked questions then tried to verify it on my own that something did not seem right. I knew immediately that this young woman was probably hired to show just cause but I also knew that their was nothing she could say against me either. I wrote on her review that I knew that we would see each other soon. These types of cases can be nasty in court. As I single parent it has made me feel more comfortable hosting knowing that Airbnb my first line of defense is making sure everyone is safe. My second defense is me looking at reviews and following instinct. It's amazing how you know when something just does not feel quite right. I feel more confident now in using instant book with verification. Then when it is accepted I look into the reviews automatically. I always ask questions. Just like this young woman was the only person that I have ever looked into because your instinct kicks in.
I hope that posting this will make others feel a bit more confident in the entire booking process that (first line of defense) Airbnb has tried with their process in establishing that only good people are connecting with those that are also good natured. I have thoroughly enjoyed hosting more than I even thought possible. Rosanne's comment is so correct. "Eventually you get a feel for people"
Christina:
The verification is only that it is a resl person. Airbnb does not do background checks or verify the person in any way. As a host, there has to be a high level of trust but instinct is the best tool. I like to ask questions to make sure the guests will be a good fit.
Rosanne:
I agree. But, some people are clever and you can be 100% with anyone. Safety first. One of my guests said they stayed at an Airbnb that asked them for their Driver's License #. She said she had a lot of expensive objects she had accumulated over her travels. I would have no problem giving a Host my DL#, but some people might not like it?
Nancy:
I definitely would not give someone my DL# but would be happy to show mine so they could verify I'm who I say I am. If it turns out I broke or stole something they can and should resolve it through the Airbnb resolution process.
Natalie:
I'm surprised but happy to hear this. I would have thought it would be easy to get verified on Airbnb.
Rosanne:
Nancy: Some of my guests say that Hosts have copiers and make a copy of their DL. I dont see where it would be a problem if you gave it to them. As a host - I have thought about just copying down their car tags - but, most of my guests have rental cars so it wouldnt do much good.
Rose:
I use instant book with verification without problems. Most people still tell me about themselves before they actually book anyhow, and we do chat back & forth.
But honestly people if someone wanted in, and were bad guys it's very easy to get in. How can you know someone has good intentions by the answers they type in a message to you? If you think you're more safe by asking some questions then you may be fooling yourself. I know Airbnb asks for a driver's license & Facebook info, etc, but this is to match up the names. They don't do a background check on drivers licenses. If I asked someone how long they were at their current residence how would I know what they said was true? I trust the reviews more than anything.
Christina:
As i said it's not about safety but about a good fit. Too many people book on price alone and don't read anything.
Rosanne:
As a guest - I first look for location, then price. Everything else is doable. When sharing a space, I want my own bathroom. It could be a deal breaker. I will pay a bit more for one. Then I read reviews. Alot depends on the location and what I will do while Im there. If its beach, I want to be close. If I dont have a car, I want good transportation to get around. Each person has a list of wants & needs. As far as security - there will always be a bit of a risk.