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Post by High Priestess on Oct 29, 2016 16:34:19 GMT
I just saw this in the news --
www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/no-bigots-need-book-airbnb/
it's a view on this Airbnb nondiscrimination policy, written by a social conservative, a conservative Christian...someone who for instance opposes the values of LGBT people. While I certainly am not a social conservative myself, -- and I am an LGBT person -- and while I am concerned about the bringing of religion into politics, nevertheless my stance on liberty and freedom is such that I can see some of the points this writer is making -- as far as the intrusion of corporate policy upon individual's freedom of thought and their right to have their own views and values.
I think the interesting distinction, and the area to be concerned about, is when the requirements not only pertain to one's actions, but also to one's belief systems or values. I can see having rules about one's actions, or omissions. But I would draw the line at mandating anyone to have certain beliefs or values, and I think the problem with the nondiscrimination policy as articulated, is that it could be interpreted to be doing that, where it states:
Well what does it mean to treat everyone without judgment or bias? That's the question. Does this imply outer actions only, or does it imply certain belief systems or values, and does this nondiscrimination policy intend to mandate that you think in certain ways, rather than think in other ways? Does it intend to govern the thoughts in your mind? That is my area of concern. www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/no-bigots-need-book-airbnb/
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Post by High Priestess on Oct 29, 2016 18:48:14 GMT
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Post by helgaparis on Oct 31, 2016 20:04:43 GMT
It's quite simple, once you adapt the concept. Respect means, that everyone has rights. A right to happiness, a right to their opinions and believes, a right to live. You would need an acceptable reason to limit the other's rights. Like your own right to live and be happy. Most of the acceptable reasons are defined by law anyway and vary betwen cultures.
Without judgement and bias means: judgement of the other person. You may judge that living as a lgt person is a good way of life and the conservatives or religios extremists may think that is a horrible choice. But if you meet a conservative guest, you need not judge, that conservative extremists have terrible ideas AND are therefore horrible people AND therefore your guest will be one. That's bias ;-) You may however anticipate, that breakfast conversation better stick to bread and coffee and better not avance into politics. That's self protection. And respectfully avoiding that the guest gets an ulcer over breakfast. But if he slobbers his coffee over the table and his sheet, you may judge him as bring not well mannered. ;-)
I did not read the article. Too tired to judge people most of the time. If you get them from all around the world, no set of values to judge them against would do anyway.
--- I lost my thread of thought: my guest knocked, persistently, had probably forgotten his key. I open and see a devil outside. An ear piercing cry and I push the door shut, the devil resists but I persists and it snaps shut. Rattling the door "Go away!" "Madame!" - "No!" "Des bonbons!" - "i don't want to" - "but, Madame!" Slowly it dawns on me: the devil was belly high and it is Halloween? "Bonbons? Madame?" I open the door, there are four kids on my doorstep, illuminated by flickering Christmas lights. The smallest has his mask in hand, to prove he is human, the others are painted, I have to trust them with the fard. I tell them to wait and find a jar of guest treats, which I pour into open hands, they have to split it between them. Under the laughter, I'm a bit shaken. My neighbor arrives "Helga, was that you?" (My second best horror movie cry, yea, that was me) She scolds them to have a care how they approach people, whilst I compliment them on the efficient mask, so we cancel each other. She sternly denies any possession of bonbons or treats, declares that all other neighbors are on holidays, earning a doubtful look of the oldest kid on the lit doors, and sends them away.
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Post by maria on Nov 1, 2016 13:27:53 GMT
This is for HelgaParis! Not trying to scare you, but this would have been me if you opened the door yesterday, during Halloween! We had a blast with out new neighbors and had wine to finish the day! Greetings, Maria from South Carolina. Attachments:
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Post by High Priestess on Nov 1, 2016 14:35:31 GMT
Glad to see you were so much in the Halloween spirit, Maria! You and Larry!
Yesterday was the only Halloween in the last many years that I actually didn't do at least a little dressing up! IN keeping with my post-vacation resolution not to work too hard, I didn't put up halloween decorations, or dress up ...as I had no time for it, had other things to attend to! (Such as working on my novel). Well it rained and we got very few trick or treaters as it turned out...
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Post by helgaparis on Nov 1, 2016 17:42:07 GMT
Great costume, Maria! Till a few years ago, Halloween did not exist here, it's a day to mourn your dead, visit tombs and flower them. Over the ladt years appeared some pumpkins decorations in shops and some othee stuff later. I saw some fisguised people already, but for parties. That's the first time someone knocked on my door. I believe, it was the kids that visited Auguste sometimes, after their parrents dragged them to Open Doors art show and they discovered the parrot. The guardian saw them at the bakery and at the butcher shop, but not in the apartment buildings. Maybe I qualify as shop or as "safe". My guest saw quite a lot of disguised people in the center of Paris, but in Toulouse, a gyu was arredted for wearing a terrorist outfit. Bad taste.
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Post by cc on Nov 1, 2016 20:02:43 GMT
Halloween is the biggest day in our family life, since at Christmas we are too split up.
For maximum candy optimization, we drive to Harbor Town, on the river, where really rich people live in zero lot line houses very close together--and they are very into it. They have elaborate decorations, including fog machines and everything else.
Show my poor daughter's 5 kids the most ghoulish ghoul and they will clap; show my rich daughter's 1 kid someone dressed as a daisy and he will be terrified! He's being raised like a little prince, and that has its pros and cons. 👺
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