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Post by High Priestess on Jul 10, 2016 15:08:43 GMT
SEe the AIrbnb blog and report here: www.airbnbaction.com/one-host-one-home-new-york-city/1zxiw0vqx0oryvpz3ikczauf-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/OneHostOneHomeNewYorkCity-1.pdfAirbnb said: "Today, we are releasing new information about our community in New York City. These numbers, which are current as of June 1st, 2016, provide the most up-to-date information on our host community in New York City. Below are some key takeaways from the report: 96 percent of Airbnb hosts who share an entire home have only one entire home listing. The median annual earnings citywide is $5,474 -- an economic life preserver for many hosts who are struggling to live in an increasingly expensive city. Most hosts share their space only occasionally. The median nights booked per listing over the past year is 47. We have taken down 2,233 listings that appeared to be hosts with multiple listings that conflict with our one host, one home policy and do not reflect Airbnb’s vision for our community."
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Post by lambada on Jul 10, 2016 21:03:25 GMT
I still fail to understand why Airbnb doesn't want to come up with a new category for ENTIRE SUITE. Seems like a very simple tweak to whatever system they currently have.
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Post by High Priestess on Jul 10, 2016 23:53:17 GMT
THey are working on it -- a while back I posted that they are doing research on additional listing categories. They had several besides suite they wanted to offer. I hope they put that into operation soon, it would help a lot.
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Post by patricia on Jul 11, 2016 2:33:26 GMT
Could anyone please explain the definition of a "suite"? A bedroom and seperate living room or a bedroom with a sitting area in the same room? Or something completely different?
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Post by High Priestess on Jul 11, 2016 3:28:10 GMT
I think a suite can be a variety of different things --- but the main idea, is that you are offering more than a private room, but less than an entire apartment. Anything in that range in my mind qualifies as a suite -- though there might be other descriptors which are accurate as well.
So it could be, when a host is offering the entire 2nd floor of her home (where she also lives) which has 2 bedrooms and a private bath. Or 2 bedrooms, private bath and a den or living room. (but no kitchen). Or just 1 bedroom and a full bath -- that could be a suite. Or, it could even be 1 bedroom, a full bath and a kitchenette -- on the upstairs floor, or on the basement floor -- in same house as host lives, without a separate entrance.
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Post by patricia on Jul 11, 2016 8:24:22 GMT
I see, thanks Deborah for explaining!
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Post by Inanna (Shaun) on Jul 11, 2016 17:00:34 GMT
So the one host one home policy against multiple listings would still allow someone who owned, say, a three bedroom apartment and listed two bedrooms as separate listings? And it is only for NY?
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Post by Maria Lurdes (Milu) on Jul 11, 2016 18:32:20 GMT
I did a totally random Manhattan specific search for 6 guests for an entire apartment for september 29 for four days, and I got back a lot of results. THen I went through the listings to look for hosts with multiple listings, but at different addresses in order to eliminate the scenario you note, Shaun. I went through the first few pages of results and found 4 hosts with more than 2 listings. I actually thought there would be more, as last time I did this exercise I found way more multi listing hosts.
I'm following this with great interest as it has a direct impact on my town. Even though our city council doesn't want to enforce as long as there are no complaints - the more STR business is in the news the harder it is for our town to keep their head buried. So we're all a bit on pins and needles as we watch what's happening in NYC. It seems a very drastic response, I wish there was more open discussion but it seems like NYC gov is drawing a very big line in the sand and they don't want discussions about moving that line.
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Post by High Priestess on Jul 11, 2016 22:04:22 GMT
Shaun, yes, it is perfectly legal for NYC hosts to rent out several rooms in one home. Evelyn, who has been a host in NYC from early years of Airbnb, has such an arrangement. I really wish the term "host with multiple listings" was not used as it is very misleading and puts hosts with more than one bedroom to offer in the same boat as hosts with more than one whole apartment to offer, and legally these are miles apart. One the city is fine with, the other NYC is very aggressively wanting to hunt down and crucify -- as well as fine them for so much as advertising a listing that isn't legal to rent as STR.
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Post by Inanna (Shaun) on Jul 12, 2016 3:50:36 GMT
I'm sorry Milu. It seems really unfair to limit hosts without real input from hosts. And arbitrary. Will it affect you badly?
i had, well, have, for two more weeks, multiple listings in my house.When things got crazy in Chicago I made plans to shut down and not renew my lease. The only option I had was to be a formal bed and breakfast, but that's not what we are. We're a big, old house with revolving roommates. Mostly long term guests nine months a year. Most people single, new in town, just starting out professionally. It's been a great way to live, all these international graduate students and young doctors and travelers, coming together and doing serious things alone, but not alone since we all were making a home together, albeit in a temporary fashion. I'm not sad about it, as the decision was made six months ago and future plans are in place, but I am angry on behalf of hosts who can no longer host.
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Post by Inanna (Shaun) on Jul 12, 2016 3:54:10 GMT
Thanks Deborah, for clarifying that it is confusing. They should say "multiple house hosts" or some such. I also hate it when they talk about "bad actors" and "illegal hostels" because they don't define those terms, but just paint hosts with it.
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