Post by High Priestess on May 28, 2016 16:42:24 GMT
This is an old post that was shared on New Hosts FOrum, before AIrbnb changed the system so that hosts could vary their minimum stay requirements:
Jeannette shared on NHF Jan 2014
www.airbnb.com/groups/content/content-91351
How to fill 1-day gaps in bookings if you have a 2-night minimum?
Hi all, I've been hosting about a year actually so I hope this is the right place to post this.
Is there a way to designate a two-day minimum but at the same time, allow a one-day minimum for one-day gaps that exist between 2 booked guests?
I imagine I could do a second, manually updated calendar for each of my two accommodations, but it would be great if AirBNB could program this as "permitted" ...
Or maybe it already does? Hmmm unless someone knows the answer I may have to call corporate HQ .... but thanks in advance!
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Julie and Eric2 years ago
Hi Jeannette - sorry, no - it doesn't.
If a guest is looking for your place for that night only but you have a two-night minimum, your listing won't appear in the search results.
As you mentioned, you could do a separate listing for each listing, but that sounds like a lot of work.
Good luck!
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Jeannette
Jeannette2 years ago
Thanks! I thought as much.
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Deborah
Deborah2 years ago
Yes -- you would have to do a whole separate duplicate listing, and then block out all its calendar dates except those single day dates you wanted filled. It would be a lot of work to get it set up to start, but then not a lot of work to maintain -- just keep uploading the single nights from time to time.
My orientation is, I don't feel driven to feel every single night. I regard the single open nights, or even some open weeks, as the universe giving me a bit of down time.
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Julie and Eric
Julie and Eric2 years ago
Ditto on the last bit! However if someone wants to have separate listings for these purposes, they can import their current calendar into the new listing - it makes it a bit easier.
Julie and Eric
Julie and Eric2 years ago
Except for the open dates in the original calendar - those would have to be blocked off. Yep, now that I think about it, sounds like a lot of work.
Deborah
Deborah2 years ago
If the open dates in the original calendar are only singles, and the original listing has a 2-night minimum, then you wouldn't have to block off those singles in the first listing since no one could book just one night under a 2 night minimum. For the second, duplicate listing you would make it a 1 night minimum, and block off the entire calendar (years in advance) except for those single nights. And add a comment to the listing that longer stays are available on the other, first listing.
Julie and Eric
Julie and Eric2 years ago
No, sorry - I meant open future dates in the original listing would have to be blocked in the new one. Importing alone wouldn't work.
Jeannette
Jeannette2 years ago
Thanks Deborah -- that's the way to list it!
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Jeannette
Jeannette2 years ago
No need to import, just do a block off on the new calendar, barring a trickle of open dates.
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Tracy
Tracy2 years ago
What I've done is when I have those one night openings, I just change my minimum for a while. Usually it doesn't create lots of future one night bookings but helps fill the near term ones.
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Teresa
Teresa2 years ago
This was helpful for me too
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Ernie
Ernie 2 years ago
Airbnb's software ought to be sophisticated enough to allow for those one night gaps in a calendar to be exceptions to those minimum stay requirements such that we can require two day, three day, five day bookings for the majority of our calendars without suffering the penalty of being unable to book those single days that will inevitably result should we choose to require a minimum stay of more than one night.
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Pauline2 years ago
Hi Jeanette, I am usually a 3 night minimum, I put a not in my details about the property, to say that if there is a two night gap that to be in touch and I will accept. Means they have to make a dummy booking, but I can change it then. Cheers Pauline
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Jeannette
Jeannette2 years ago
Hi Pauline -- Thanks for the info. Does this mean that your listing shows up in searches for folks looking for 2 nights? That is my concern -- not showing up in searches.
Maggie
Maggie2 years ago
You could do it the other way around - have a one night minimum stay and make a note in your listing that you prefer x number of nights but will take one nighters if there is a gap.
Julie and Eric
Julie and Eric2 years ago
I'm trying to think of how Ernest's idea would work...do other services offer this? I haven't seen it on any of the ones I use.
Host can choose:
Primary minimum stay (e.g. 3 to (phone number hidden) nights)
Secondary minimum stay (e.g. 2 to primary minimum stay minus 1)
Tertiary minimum stay (e.g. 1 to secondary minimum stay minus 1)
They would have to remove the "minimum stay" from the interface, so guests wouldn't know what the minimum stay is at a glance.
Primary minimum stay applies always unless:
If part of calendar is free for less than primary minimum stay, secondary minimum stay applies
If part of calendar is free for less than the secondary minimum stay, tertiary minimum stay applies
Right?
Sounds like an easy fix that will be fully tested and not introduce any bugs...
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Ernie
Ernie 2 years ago
Bingo! Airbnb is right next to silicon valley in the tech mecca of the world! How can they not resolve this simple issue?
Jeannette
Jeannette2 years ago
That's exactly what I'd like them to write into the code -- YES.
Julie and Eric
Julie and Eric2 years ago
the (phone number hidden) above is the eighth Mersenne prime, which is the maximum number of nights allowed (which is a LOT of nights - almost 6 million years).
Jeannette
Jeannette2 years ago
LOLLZzzzzz, I thought it was seventh Mersenne prime, silly me!
Jeannette
Jeannette2 years ago
I'd like to copy this thread as a PDF and send it into AirBNB as a suggestion, if people don't mind. I'm not sure where to send it though.
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Julie and Eric
Julie and Eric2 years ago
Perhaps one of the hosts going to the open could inquire - Ernest? I hear Airbnb has years of development already planned.
Jeannette
Jeannette2 years ago
Good idea -- we also have a host going from Baltimore, I can forward to her ...
Pauline
Pauline2 years ago
See what you mean, no it wouldn't .
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Deborah
Jeannette shared on NHF Jan 2014
www.airbnb.com/groups/content/content-91351
How to fill 1-day gaps in bookings if you have a 2-night minimum?
Hi all, I've been hosting about a year actually so I hope this is the right place to post this.
Is there a way to designate a two-day minimum but at the same time, allow a one-day minimum for one-day gaps that exist between 2 booked guests?
I imagine I could do a second, manually updated calendar for each of my two accommodations, but it would be great if AirBNB could program this as "permitted" ...
Or maybe it already does? Hmmm unless someone knows the answer I may have to call corporate HQ .... but thanks in advance!
12 comments•1 like
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Like
Ernie
Delete
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Julie and Eric
Julie and Eric2 years ago
Hi Jeannette - sorry, no - it doesn't.
If a guest is looking for your place for that night only but you have a two-night minimum, your listing won't appear in the search results.
As you mentioned, you could do a separate listing for each listing, but that sounds like a lot of work.
Good luck!
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Jeannette
Jeannette2 years ago
Thanks! I thought as much.
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Deborah
Deborah2 years ago
Yes -- you would have to do a whole separate duplicate listing, and then block out all its calendar dates except those single day dates you wanted filled. It would be a lot of work to get it set up to start, but then not a lot of work to maintain -- just keep uploading the single nights from time to time.
My orientation is, I don't feel driven to feel every single night. I regard the single open nights, or even some open weeks, as the universe giving me a bit of down time.
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Julie and Eric
Julie and Eric2 years ago
Ditto on the last bit! However if someone wants to have separate listings for these purposes, they can import their current calendar into the new listing - it makes it a bit easier.
Julie and Eric
Julie and Eric2 years ago
Except for the open dates in the original calendar - those would have to be blocked off. Yep, now that I think about it, sounds like a lot of work.
Deborah
Deborah2 years ago
If the open dates in the original calendar are only singles, and the original listing has a 2-night minimum, then you wouldn't have to block off those singles in the first listing since no one could book just one night under a 2 night minimum. For the second, duplicate listing you would make it a 1 night minimum, and block off the entire calendar (years in advance) except for those single nights. And add a comment to the listing that longer stays are available on the other, first listing.
Julie and Eric
Julie and Eric2 years ago
No, sorry - I meant open future dates in the original listing would have to be blocked in the new one. Importing alone wouldn't work.
Jeannette
Jeannette2 years ago
Thanks Deborah -- that's the way to list it!
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Jeannette
Jeannette2 years ago
No need to import, just do a block off on the new calendar, barring a trickle of open dates.
Reply Like Delete
Tracy
Tracy2 years ago
What I've done is when I have those one night openings, I just change my minimum for a while. Usually it doesn't create lots of future one night bookings but helps fill the near term ones.
Reply Like Delete
Teresa
Teresa2 years ago
This was helpful for me too
Reply Like Delete
Ernie
Ernie 2 years ago
Airbnb's software ought to be sophisticated enough to allow for those one night gaps in a calendar to be exceptions to those minimum stay requirements such that we can require two day, three day, five day bookings for the majority of our calendars without suffering the penalty of being unable to book those single days that will inevitably result should we choose to require a minimum stay of more than one night.
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Pauline
Pauline2 years ago
Hi Jeanette, I am usually a 3 night minimum, I put a not in my details about the property, to say that if there is a two night gap that to be in touch and I will accept. Means they have to make a dummy booking, but I can change it then. Cheers Pauline
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Jeannette
Jeannette2 years ago
Hi Pauline -- Thanks for the info. Does this mean that your listing shows up in searches for folks looking for 2 nights? That is my concern -- not showing up in searches.
Maggie
Maggie2 years ago
You could do it the other way around - have a one night minimum stay and make a note in your listing that you prefer x number of nights but will take one nighters if there is a gap.
Julie and Eric
Julie and Eric2 years ago
I'm trying to think of how Ernest's idea would work...do other services offer this? I haven't seen it on any of the ones I use.
Host can choose:
Primary minimum stay (e.g. 3 to (phone number hidden) nights)
Secondary minimum stay (e.g. 2 to primary minimum stay minus 1)
Tertiary minimum stay (e.g. 1 to secondary minimum stay minus 1)
They would have to remove the "minimum stay" from the interface, so guests wouldn't know what the minimum stay is at a glance.
Primary minimum stay applies always unless:
If part of calendar is free for less than primary minimum stay, secondary minimum stay applies
If part of calendar is free for less than the secondary minimum stay, tertiary minimum stay applies
Right?
Sounds like an easy fix that will be fully tested and not introduce any bugs...
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Ernie
Ernie 2 years ago
Bingo! Airbnb is right next to silicon valley in the tech mecca of the world! How can they not resolve this simple issue?
Jeannette
Jeannette2 years ago
That's exactly what I'd like them to write into the code -- YES.
Julie and Eric
Julie and Eric2 years ago
the (phone number hidden) above is the eighth Mersenne prime, which is the maximum number of nights allowed (which is a LOT of nights - almost 6 million years).
Jeannette
Jeannette2 years ago
LOLLZzzzzz, I thought it was seventh Mersenne prime, silly me!
Jeannette
Jeannette2 years ago
I'd like to copy this thread as a PDF and send it into AirBNB as a suggestion, if people don't mind. I'm not sure where to send it though.
Reply Like 2 replies Delete
Julie and Eric
Julie and Eric2 years ago
Perhaps one of the hosts going to the open could inquire - Ernest? I hear Airbnb has years of development already planned.
Jeannette
Jeannette2 years ago
Good idea -- we also have a host going from Baltimore, I can forward to her ...
Pauline
Pauline2 years ago
See what you mean, no it wouldn't .
Reply Like Delete
Deborah