Post by High Priestess on May 27, 2016 3:39:54 GMT
Fabien shared on Anecdotes in Dec 2014
www.airbnb.com/groups/content/content-100317
Tips please on Chinese guests
I got a wealthy couple staying in flat next week. They are coming to see their son and want a place where they can cook. I am concerned they will leave the place stinking to high heaven. Do you have any tips? I read a couple of paragraphs on Korean leaving accommodation in a right old state. Should I be worried? Thank you in advance!
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Carrie
Carriea year ago
Do you have a hood on your stove? Just make sure it is in good working order, and that you explain clearly how to use it properly.
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Fabien
Fabiena year ago
Thank you Carrie. Yes I have! I'll also show them where the cleaning sprays are. Lol
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Carrie
Carriea year ago
You're on the right track, Fabien. I've found that, for me, cleaning up after guests in the kitchen has been my biggest annoyance. I allow full kitchen access, and truly don't mind people using the kitchen, but leaving dirty dishes/food scraps drives me nuts. Clear expectations is something I need to improve to reduce these problems.
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Nicole
Nicolea year ago
I've hosted one chineese woman for a week. She was a surgeon and also wanted use of the kitchen. While she had a definite presence in the kitchen she cleaned up after herself and actually cleaned the whole kitchen when she left floors, fridge and everything. This was not the first time she traveled to the US and said the food here was so different that it upset her stomach and that's why she wanted to use airbnb this time. I found her to be very humble and overly gracious. Her English was good and we spent hours talking about her culture and ours. It was really an awesome experience.
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william david
william davida year ago
chinese or korean guests FABIEN ,, you dont seem to be sure,,, stinking to high heaven is rather a harsh set of phrases to use,, accept what you read on the internet as truthfull,, I DONT ALWAYS,,, you cant base your fears on what you read on internet and refer to CERTAIN people being dirty WELL at least rather rude to name the country of origin.. I HAVE HAD lots of korean, chinese, and japanese guests,,, WITHOUT EXCEPTION thay ALL have been VERY CLEAN IN KITCHEN... ? maybe you should cook for them then you wont have any problems you ENVISAGE...
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Bianca
Biancaa year ago
I have had many Koreans cooking on my kitchen. And there was no 'stink'. Sometimes only a very strong garlic smell.
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william david
william davida year ago
AH, GARLIC,,, is a good antiseptic smell,,, KEEPS FLIES AND MOZIES at bay,,,
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Rebecca
Rebeccaa year ago
This is an international group so maybe some Chinese hosts on here might enlighten you as to their culinary habits. Because of course they are all the same - all 1.35 billion of them. They all cook the same way and use the same ingredients, yep, all of them. And of course they all have exactly the same habits and customs. They all look the same too don't they? Oh sorry - was that a step too far?
I think it's best, Fabien, if you think of your guests as individual people rather than bothering yourself about where they come from. If you have prejudices about people's ethnicity, maybe Airbnb isn't for you.
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Kate
Katea year ago
I have had Chinese guests cook in my kitchen. They were very clean and wonderful guests. Truly fantastic. As for my fellow Aussies...well they have been a different story lol. They always want to use the BBQ and leave it in a mess.
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Sheryl
Sheryl a year ago
Rebecca, I agree that the original inquiry was based on a broad theory about Chinese and Koreans. But, even more surprising is that most responded as if this was a perfectly normal approach to considering a prospective guest!
The steps involved seem to be: 1) Determine racial/ethnic/cultural origin of guest, 2) Apply stereotype based on limited or no experience or that of others with that type of person, 3) Reach conclusions on which to base your interaction!
Whether based on ignorance or outright hatred, it's all prejudice.
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Lula and Larry
Lula and Larrya year ago
What about if it is not about prejudice? I try to envision myself hosting a guest, specially if from a different background. I try to learn basic words and greetings in my potential guest's language and what they would like or need;. i.e. I got a rice cooker. Was I wrong to assume my Asian guests would enjoy it? My guests were delighted and used the pot every day. Was I stereotyping? No. I was trying to make them feel welcome by ANTICIPATING.
Kate
Katea year ago
Well I think You are in danger of making broad generalisations yourselves on those who commented. Pot calling kettle anyone? People need to lighten up.
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Fabien
Fabiena year ago
Thanks everyone for your comments. I was just reacting to some other bad experiences other hosts had had on this forum. No further input needed. I will see how things go from now on. I am sure they will be fantastic guests. I will let you know the outcome. Many thanks
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Lula and Larry
Lula and Larrya year ago
Good luck eith your guests, Fabien. As I host Chinese, and sometimes Korean and Japanese guests, I bought a nice size rice cooker (electric ). They used it a lot and were very happy when I bought it.
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Fabien
Fabiena year ago
Many thanks Maria. Love you. I got a rice cooker at my partner's house. I'll bring it to the flat. Thank you so much for that. I am sure my fears are unfounded and have no doubt things will go well. It is good to be positive and expect thing to be good. Law of attraction! God bless xx
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mark
marka year ago
Hi Fabien,
I am in Taiwan - not China or Korea - so I can't enlighten you to the stinky cooking of those countries. However, I agree with your statement "No further input needed" - your ignorance speaks well enough for itself. But, maybe you can help me out with some concerns I have.
I have a couple of Englishlanders booked next week. I am worried as I have heard they all wear dresses (kilts?) , smell like stinky cheese and sing loudly in celtic! Do you have any tips? I read a couple of paragraphs on the Welsh leaving accommodation in a right old state. Should I be worried? Thank you in advance!
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Fabien
Fabiena year ago
Ahaha very funny Mark for your constructive comment. Talking about ignorance, I point out to you that English men do not wear kilts but Scots do! As regard to modern Celtic languages, they are mostly spoken on the north-western edge of Europe, notably in Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Brittany (France), Cornwall, and the Isle of Man. Thanks for your input darling. Oh I am not English btw.
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mark
marka year ago
Thats was the joke...
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mark
marka year ago
But as Billy Connolly says - they work better if you don't have to explain them
Fabien
Fabiena year ago
Thanks Mark :-)
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Kelly
Kellya year ago
I want to add - some Chinese cooking style require high heat. I once had a group of nice Chinese guests, and they actually burnt my kitchen wall due to strong fire. Korean kitchens usually are not built for such strong fire, probably they didn't know that.
I think people who traveled a bit and familiar with other cultures would know what to be careful.
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Fabien
Fabiena year ago
Thank you Kelly. The stove I got is induction heat. I'll be checking anyway on them to see how they get on. I won't let them completely off the reins. My first people I had over Christmas cleaned up the flat. I only needed to change the bed sheets! Crossed fingers I'll receive the same treatment!
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Fabien
Fabiena year ago
Just wanted to give you some well deserved feedback on my guests. They are wonderful and it is a delight to have them in my flat which they adore. I went back at 1 pm to give them the rice maker and they wanted me to stay for lunch. I am sure we'll stay great friends after their departure! I told them my ex was Chinese and that he owned three restaurants. They thought that was funny! Finally, no, the house doesn't "stink". I apologise if I offended anyone with my comments but I was just reacting to what I was reading from another forum on Airnb. It is a dangerous thing to generalise! God bless and happy new year.
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Lula and Larry
Lula and Larrya year ago
Happy New Year Fabien. One of my former Chinese guests just contacted us, he wants to stay with us again for a month., so taking out the rice pot from storage.
Fabien
Fabiena year ago
Ahaha Well done Maria and thanks for your advice. HNY to you too :-)
www.airbnb.com/groups/content/content-100317
Tips please on Chinese guests
I got a wealthy couple staying in flat next week. They are coming to see their son and want a place where they can cook. I am concerned they will leave the place stinking to high heaven. Do you have any tips? I read a couple of paragraphs on Korean leaving accommodation in a right old state. Should I be worried? Thank you in advance!
21 comments
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Carrie
Carriea year ago
Do you have a hood on your stove? Just make sure it is in good working order, and that you explain clearly how to use it properly.
Reply Like 1 like
Fabien
Fabiena year ago
Thank you Carrie. Yes I have! I'll also show them where the cleaning sprays are. Lol
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Carrie
Carriea year ago
You're on the right track, Fabien. I've found that, for me, cleaning up after guests in the kitchen has been my biggest annoyance. I allow full kitchen access, and truly don't mind people using the kitchen, but leaving dirty dishes/food scraps drives me nuts. Clear expectations is something I need to improve to reduce these problems.
Reply Like
Nicole
Nicolea year ago
I've hosted one chineese woman for a week. She was a surgeon and also wanted use of the kitchen. While she had a definite presence in the kitchen she cleaned up after herself and actually cleaned the whole kitchen when she left floors, fridge and everything. This was not the first time she traveled to the US and said the food here was so different that it upset her stomach and that's why she wanted to use airbnb this time. I found her to be very humble and overly gracious. Her English was good and we spent hours talking about her culture and ours. It was really an awesome experience.
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william david
william davida year ago
chinese or korean guests FABIEN ,, you dont seem to be sure,,, stinking to high heaven is rather a harsh set of phrases to use,, accept what you read on the internet as truthfull,, I DONT ALWAYS,,, you cant base your fears on what you read on internet and refer to CERTAIN people being dirty WELL at least rather rude to name the country of origin.. I HAVE HAD lots of korean, chinese, and japanese guests,,, WITHOUT EXCEPTION thay ALL have been VERY CLEAN IN KITCHEN... ? maybe you should cook for them then you wont have any problems you ENVISAGE...
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Bianca
Biancaa year ago
I have had many Koreans cooking on my kitchen. And there was no 'stink'. Sometimes only a very strong garlic smell.
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william david
william davida year ago
AH, GARLIC,,, is a good antiseptic smell,,, KEEPS FLIES AND MOZIES at bay,,,
Reply Like
Rebecca
Rebeccaa year ago
This is an international group so maybe some Chinese hosts on here might enlighten you as to their culinary habits. Because of course they are all the same - all 1.35 billion of them. They all cook the same way and use the same ingredients, yep, all of them. And of course they all have exactly the same habits and customs. They all look the same too don't they? Oh sorry - was that a step too far?
I think it's best, Fabien, if you think of your guests as individual people rather than bothering yourself about where they come from. If you have prejudices about people's ethnicity, maybe Airbnb isn't for you.
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Kate
Katea year ago
I have had Chinese guests cook in my kitchen. They were very clean and wonderful guests. Truly fantastic. As for my fellow Aussies...well they have been a different story lol. They always want to use the BBQ and leave it in a mess.
Reply Like 1 like
Sheryl
Sheryl a year ago
Rebecca, I agree that the original inquiry was based on a broad theory about Chinese and Koreans. But, even more surprising is that most responded as if this was a perfectly normal approach to considering a prospective guest!
The steps involved seem to be: 1) Determine racial/ethnic/cultural origin of guest, 2) Apply stereotype based on limited or no experience or that of others with that type of person, 3) Reach conclusions on which to base your interaction!
Whether based on ignorance or outright hatred, it's all prejudice.
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Lula and Larry
Lula and Larrya year ago
What about if it is not about prejudice? I try to envision myself hosting a guest, specially if from a different background. I try to learn basic words and greetings in my potential guest's language and what they would like or need;. i.e. I got a rice cooker. Was I wrong to assume my Asian guests would enjoy it? My guests were delighted and used the pot every day. Was I stereotyping? No. I was trying to make them feel welcome by ANTICIPATING.
Kate
Katea year ago
Well I think You are in danger of making broad generalisations yourselves on those who commented. Pot calling kettle anyone? People need to lighten up.
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Fabien
Fabiena year ago
Thanks everyone for your comments. I was just reacting to some other bad experiences other hosts had had on this forum. No further input needed. I will see how things go from now on. I am sure they will be fantastic guests. I will let you know the outcome. Many thanks
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Lula and Larry
Lula and Larrya year ago
Good luck eith your guests, Fabien. As I host Chinese, and sometimes Korean and Japanese guests, I bought a nice size rice cooker (electric ). They used it a lot and were very happy when I bought it.
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Fabien
Fabiena year ago
Many thanks Maria. Love you. I got a rice cooker at my partner's house. I'll bring it to the flat. Thank you so much for that. I am sure my fears are unfounded and have no doubt things will go well. It is good to be positive and expect thing to be good. Law of attraction! God bless xx
Reply Like 1 like
mark
marka year ago
Hi Fabien,
I am in Taiwan - not China or Korea - so I can't enlighten you to the stinky cooking of those countries. However, I agree with your statement "No further input needed" - your ignorance speaks well enough for itself. But, maybe you can help me out with some concerns I have.
I have a couple of Englishlanders booked next week. I am worried as I have heard they all wear dresses (kilts?) , smell like stinky cheese and sing loudly in celtic! Do you have any tips? I read a couple of paragraphs on the Welsh leaving accommodation in a right old state. Should I be worried? Thank you in advance!
Reply Like 1 like
Fabien
Fabiena year ago
Ahaha very funny Mark for your constructive comment. Talking about ignorance, I point out to you that English men do not wear kilts but Scots do! As regard to modern Celtic languages, they are mostly spoken on the north-western edge of Europe, notably in Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Brittany (France), Cornwall, and the Isle of Man. Thanks for your input darling. Oh I am not English btw.
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mark
marka year ago
Thats was the joke...
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mark
marka year ago
But as Billy Connolly says - they work better if you don't have to explain them
Fabien
Fabiena year ago
Thanks Mark :-)
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Kelly
Kellya year ago
I want to add - some Chinese cooking style require high heat. I once had a group of nice Chinese guests, and they actually burnt my kitchen wall due to strong fire. Korean kitchens usually are not built for such strong fire, probably they didn't know that.
I think people who traveled a bit and familiar with other cultures would know what to be careful.
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Fabien
Fabiena year ago
Thank you Kelly. The stove I got is induction heat. I'll be checking anyway on them to see how they get on. I won't let them completely off the reins. My first people I had over Christmas cleaned up the flat. I only needed to change the bed sheets! Crossed fingers I'll receive the same treatment!
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Fabien
Fabiena year ago
Just wanted to give you some well deserved feedback on my guests. They are wonderful and it is a delight to have them in my flat which they adore. I went back at 1 pm to give them the rice maker and they wanted me to stay for lunch. I am sure we'll stay great friends after their departure! I told them my ex was Chinese and that he owned three restaurants. They thought that was funny! Finally, no, the house doesn't "stink". I apologise if I offended anyone with my comments but I was just reacting to what I was reading from another forum on Airnb. It is a dangerous thing to generalise! God bless and happy new year.
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Lula and Larry
Lula and Larrya year ago
Happy New Year Fabien. One of my former Chinese guests just contacted us, he wants to stay with us again for a month., so taking out the rice pot from storage.
Fabien
Fabiena year ago
Ahaha Well done Maria and thanks for your advice. HNY to you too :-)