Post by High Priestess on May 14, 2016 15:30:09 GMT
Mary shared on New Hosts Forum
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How to avoid becoming a "Love Hotel?"
We are located in New Delhi, India. We are new to this and have run across a peculiar problem. We have had three foreign guests, all fine, no problems. The Indian guests, so far, just seem to be men who want a discrete place to shag their girlfriends. India is a conservative place and I understand that it is difficult for unmarried couples to find privacy, however these guys have all been underhanded in the way they made bookings for themselves, then tried to sneak their girl friends into the house during the day ( I assume to avoid the girls' parents learning of the tryst). My husband and I have no objection to unmarried domestic partners or other more unorthodox arrangements, but I don't want to get into some sleazy arrangement as a safe haven for "forbidden sex." It is not my business how people conduct their private lives, but this is getting weird. What to do? Thanks for your advice.
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C C21 hours ago
I don't run a brothel here either. I rent to single people & I do not allow anyone other than that guest to enter the home. Even to help bring in bags. Or anything else. An Über driver started to help a guest bring bags in the other day & said in a cursory fashion to me, "Can I come in here?" And I said no.
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Mary
Mary21 hours ago
Thank you. I need to be more brusque. A strange scene that I was certainly not expecting.
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Nathalie Et Claude
Nathalie Et Claude19 hours ago
I saw you have 2 nights minimum which avoid most of this type of request. You can increase your price or set 3 nights minimum.
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C C
C C19 hours ago
Great idea! I've never wanted to do that myself, but it would help weed out the riffraff.
Andrew
Andrew18 hours ago
Yes, if this is a persistent problem in your location, I think the best approach would be either a 3 night minimum or limiting the party size to 1 person (or both).
If you go the singles-only route, you could lose a substantial amount of business in the low season, so as an alternative I'd suggest raising the Extra Person Fee to one that effectively doubles the base price. That would essentially mean that your room is still affordably priced but that the premium for couples favors those in dual-income households (rather than clandestine affairs bankrolled by a cheapskate dude).
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stefania
stefania17 hours ago
Do you usually ask for documents? You could do that in advance. ..
C C
C C17 hours ago
Ha! Andrew. So true
Deborah
Deborah14 hours ago
As usual, great suggestions from Andrew!
Mary
Mary12 hours ago
Thank you good ideas!
C C
C C11 hours ago
Our state is so conservative that a bill was advanced in the Senate to make the Holy Bible our official state book--not kidding.
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Deborah
Deborah11 hours ago
That is funny, CC, ----- though I say that from a distance of two thousand miles away. I worry that if I was only 10 or 20 miles away from you, I might feel jittery. I would also start having visions of going to an ATM machine and pushing buttons and out come Holy Bibles instead of cash.
Stan & Maggie
Stan & Maggie9 hours ago
I found some weird type of biblical texts under the night stand drawers recently
Deborah
Deborah9 hours ago
Maggie, your guest left them? Guest's own devotional material, left behind by accident, or guest's attempt to surrepticiously proselytize? Stealth tactics.
C C
C C9 hours ago
Ha! Deborah!
Mary
Mary8 hours ago
Well here in India the Hindu right wing is becoming more strident and the moral police are out. Most marriages are still arranged and it is a challenge to arrange for an "illicit" tryst or an adulterous affair, but facilitating either was not on my Airbnb radar!
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Deborah
Deboraha few seconds ago
Your situation brings up a dilemma that is not so common to many hosts who live in the US or Europe, which is the perception that the hosts' surrounding community may have of the hosts' guests. What you say is similar to what I recall hearing from a host who lived in Jordan, in a setting where the perceptions of the hosts' surrounding community and spiritual leader of that community, cannot readily be dismissed. We as hosts all live in community , and communities have certain values, which at times (and I think all the more so in smaller communities or more tight-knit ones) hosts could risk negative consequences by appearing to flaunt. WHich is yet another reason why I think it's so important that hosts and not Airbnb are the ones to set their own rules and determine whom they want in their homes.
liz
liz7 hours ago
No suggestion Mary , but I just looked at your home and it is stunning . Simply gorgeous .
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Mary
Mary7 hours ago
Thanks so much Liz!
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How to avoid becoming a "Love Hotel?"
We are located in New Delhi, India. We are new to this and have run across a peculiar problem. We have had three foreign guests, all fine, no problems. The Indian guests, so far, just seem to be men who want a discrete place to shag their girlfriends. India is a conservative place and I understand that it is difficult for unmarried couples to find privacy, however these guys have all been underhanded in the way they made bookings for themselves, then tried to sneak their girl friends into the house during the day ( I assume to avoid the girls' parents learning of the tryst). My husband and I have no objection to unmarried domestic partners or other more unorthodox arrangements, but I don't want to get into some sleazy arrangement as a safe haven for "forbidden sex." It is not my business how people conduct their private lives, but this is getting weird. What to do? Thanks for your advice.
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C C21 hours ago
I don't run a brothel here either. I rent to single people & I do not allow anyone other than that guest to enter the home. Even to help bring in bags. Or anything else. An Über driver started to help a guest bring bags in the other day & said in a cursory fashion to me, "Can I come in here?" And I said no.
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Mary
Mary21 hours ago
Thank you. I need to be more brusque. A strange scene that I was certainly not expecting.
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Nathalie Et Claude
Nathalie Et Claude19 hours ago
I saw you have 2 nights minimum which avoid most of this type of request. You can increase your price or set 3 nights minimum.
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C C
C C19 hours ago
Great idea! I've never wanted to do that myself, but it would help weed out the riffraff.
Andrew
Andrew18 hours ago
Yes, if this is a persistent problem in your location, I think the best approach would be either a 3 night minimum or limiting the party size to 1 person (or both).
If you go the singles-only route, you could lose a substantial amount of business in the low season, so as an alternative I'd suggest raising the Extra Person Fee to one that effectively doubles the base price. That would essentially mean that your room is still affordably priced but that the premium for couples favors those in dual-income households (rather than clandestine affairs bankrolled by a cheapskate dude).
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stefania
stefania17 hours ago
Do you usually ask for documents? You could do that in advance. ..
C C
C C17 hours ago
Ha! Andrew. So true
Deborah
Deborah14 hours ago
As usual, great suggestions from Andrew!
Mary
Mary12 hours ago
Thank you good ideas!
C C
C C11 hours ago
Our state is so conservative that a bill was advanced in the Senate to make the Holy Bible our official state book--not kidding.
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Deborah
Deborah11 hours ago
That is funny, CC, ----- though I say that from a distance of two thousand miles away. I worry that if I was only 10 or 20 miles away from you, I might feel jittery. I would also start having visions of going to an ATM machine and pushing buttons and out come Holy Bibles instead of cash.
Stan & Maggie
Stan & Maggie9 hours ago
I found some weird type of biblical texts under the night stand drawers recently
Deborah
Deborah9 hours ago
Maggie, your guest left them? Guest's own devotional material, left behind by accident, or guest's attempt to surrepticiously proselytize? Stealth tactics.
C C
C C9 hours ago
Ha! Deborah!
Mary
Mary8 hours ago
Well here in India the Hindu right wing is becoming more strident and the moral police are out. Most marriages are still arranged and it is a challenge to arrange for an "illicit" tryst or an adulterous affair, but facilitating either was not on my Airbnb radar!
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Deborah
Deboraha few seconds ago
Your situation brings up a dilemma that is not so common to many hosts who live in the US or Europe, which is the perception that the hosts' surrounding community may have of the hosts' guests. What you say is similar to what I recall hearing from a host who lived in Jordan, in a setting where the perceptions of the hosts' surrounding community and spiritual leader of that community, cannot readily be dismissed. We as hosts all live in community , and communities have certain values, which at times (and I think all the more so in smaller communities or more tight-knit ones) hosts could risk negative consequences by appearing to flaunt. WHich is yet another reason why I think it's so important that hosts and not Airbnb are the ones to set their own rules and determine whom they want in their homes.
liz
liz7 hours ago
No suggestion Mary , but I just looked at your home and it is stunning . Simply gorgeous .
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Mary
Mary7 hours ago
Thanks so much Liz!
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Deborah
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